BLM 2000

[Larry Tapper]

How come Coors was the only brewery to say it was o.k. To keep systems clean? This is the worst thing I have seen in 27 years of installing, cleaning an maintaning beer systems. L Tapper
I would like to know if there is a good way to stop the negative effect of the drop on beer systems that are ran over the ceiling. the rise an fall are the same.

L. Tapper

[bill]

LARRY THE BLM IN THEORY IS NOT THAT BAD HOWEVER IN MY MARKET MR RETAILER HAS TO PAY FOR THIS ITEM AND IF YOU ARE IN THE BUSINESS YOU PROBABLY KNOW THATS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN...
WHAT NEG EFFECTS ARE YOU HAVING WITH THE VR OR VF ON THE SYSTEM IN QUESTION

[Larry Tapper]

Bill the vf seems to pull the product apart causing some foam.

L. Tapper

[Beer Dr]

Larry the lift or drop is figured from the bottom of the keg to the center of the faucet. If the faucet is 4 feet above the bottom of the keg it doesn't matter if you go over a ceiling and back down to the faucet. Same goes for if you have to go into the basement from a first floor cooler and back up to a first floor tower. You have to figure the run, hardware, and tower restriction also in the equation also

[Scott Zuhse]

What is the system run length and what are you setting the keg pressure at. Is a gas blender being used?

Scott Zuhse, Instructor Micro Matic Dispense Institute

[martyd]

larry what was the worst thing you seen in 27 years only coors approveing these units or the units themselves

marty

[Scott Zuhse]

What negative effect of vertical fall are you referring to? Is the beer degassing? Again, what is your pressure and is it blend gas? As to the BLM2000, have you conducted your own testing? If so, how did you test this and what conclusions did you come to?

Scott Zuhse, Instructor Micro Matic Dispense Institute

[Larry Tapper]

Martyd the units themselfs,The one place that i've seen using them after about one year call for help, were getting floaters in beer. First cleaning I had 1/4 inch off beer stone in the bottom of ss steel sink off of 2 -70ft lines that is bad.

L. Tapper

[BCBeverage]

The word around here is that the letter from Coors endorsing the product was a fake. They did it just to get sales. It was never endorsed by Coors.

[Scott Zuhse]

Letter is not fake. Coors Brewing Company would have had them shut down years ago if this was the case.

The reason the flakes appeared may very well be due to the sound waves that transfer through the beer stream are loosening the beerstone. Thus, when you clean the lines, what was there for a long time is finally being removed. After numerous cleanings, this may very well go away.

My question is why was there any beerstone in the first place. The BLM does not cause beerstone. Glycol systems that are circulating too cold cause beerstone.

This device was designed to assist the cleaning process, not replace it. The main reason that this device is criticized is due to the lack of execution preparing the system for the device and then cleaning the system each cycle.

Scott Zuhse, Instructor Micro Matic Dispense Institute

[BIOQTECH]

I have reviewed the comments about the BLM2000 and by joining this forum I welcome further comments, but feel its appropriate to advise forum members more about the BLM2000, from the person and the company who invented the technology. Firstly, BIOQTECH Corporation is a Great Britain registered company and manufactures and distributes the BLM2000 to its wholly owned branch companies in Japan and North America. (MILY CORPORATION In Kobe, Japan and BIOQTECH (USA) LLC in Colorado, USA.) Please visit www.bioqtech.com for all contact numbers.

As for unsubstantiated comments about Coors Brewing Company's non approval of the technology, if any forum members need validated evidence of Coors approval of the technology, please refer to Coors Draft Dispense manual and the BLM2000 technology is explained within same. Furthermore, this approval has been in place for more than 6 years and the product was firstly installed on all Coors product lines in Denver in 2000. An enormous amount of technical data and results have been compiled by both Coors and our company and forum members are more than welcome to contact either myself directly or the Draft Manager at Coors Brewery, Mr Mike Smith. Suffice to say, life with the BLM2000 continues and a bi-weekly cleaning cycle ended 6-years ago and will not return.

Within North America, 7 years ago we had a small band of users and a lot of 'knockers' of the technology, but today the users are numerous and the 'knockers' only small. We will of course be happy to supply forum members with a list of what we term as 'ambassadors' of our technology, who continue to be dedicated users. This list continues to grow and even as of last week, another beer line maintenance company from Seattle came on board; and with a territory of nearly 3,000 beer lines they will provide their accounts with a greater level of service and provide each account with reduced beer wastage.

Couple this success with Brewery approvals in Japan, Poland, Romania, Russia and the United Kingdom, it must be said that Coors Brewing Company many years ago were pioneers and only led the way now taken by other breweries world-wide.

In my closing comments, its easy to 'knock' something new, but when the technology stands the test of time and is now recognized by 3 of the world's top 10 breweries, I think the 'knockers' should look further afield and become more knowlegable in exactly what makes the BLM2000 successful and ask these breweries and users more questions in the process.

Sincerely,
BIOQTECH CORPORATION



DAVID MIDDLETON
President

[wineglow]

The Perlick web site which sells the BLM2000 states the lines should be chemically cleaned every 8 weeks and the faucets should be disassembled and cleaned every 4 weeks. It also states on web site that if a bad key has been on a line it should be chemically cleaned. Who is going to clean the faucets --the restaurant??? Since a line cleaning company cleans the faucets while the lines are being cleaned with a pump , the time spent at a location is about the same. The restaurant still has to pay for this cleaning in states where beer companies can not clean lines.

What about FOB's and especially the Perlick Smart couplers are they being cleaned? What about series kegs -- is the line between the kegs being cleaned?

[martyd]

This is why perlick will not actually sell these units but require you to be a part of their PUREFLOW program. wht we do is we lease these units to the customers as part of the program, we as pureflow participants are required to do the bi monthly cleanings. ive been installing and useing these units for well over a year and have only great things to say about them when the program is followed.these units dont actually clean the lines they prevent the growth of any bacteria. they prohibit the growth on everything that they are hooked up to as long as these lines are filled with beer.

marty