C02 Volume of Blue Moon

[iceman8420]

Anyone know? Scott?

I think Coors makes it... so probably means +2 psi over my Amber Bock settings I'm guessing.. just want to confirm

-Seth

[iceman8420]

bump.. anyone know?

-Seth

[USMC - Retired]

no clue here iceman, have you tried calling the brewery?

Semper Fi,
The Gunns

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[iceman8420]

Well, just picked up the keg, and it's a Coors keg [8D]

Right now I'm at 14psi/38 deg for the amber bock.. I don't have secondary regulators. I'm going to take the plunge with 14 on the blue moon and see what happens.

-Seth

[USMC - Retired]

Keep in mind that Blue Moon is a wheat ale and as such normally would have a higher CO2 volume. If I were you I would give the folks at Coors a call and find out exactly what it is...

Semper Fi,
The Gunns

"Beer is proof that god loves us and wants us to be happy" - Benjamin Franklin

Im a MicroMatic Beer Fanatic! Are you?

[iceman8420]

True, true.. well, time for a secondary regulator setup I think

edit: found the nutritional info hehe
http://www.coors.com/brews_nutrition.asp

also a "blue moon fact sheet" with no co2 volume



-Seth

[iceman8420]

ok, thanks for the suggestion. Called Coors at 800-642-6116, the girl had no idea what CO2 volume is, but did tell me they recommend 16PSI @ 38F, sea level.

Time to buy more stuff from micromatic for sure

-Seth

[iceman8420]

secondary regulators... done!!

dropped the tank while I was working though, and broke the high side gauge time to get a new one

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-Seth

[Scott Zuhse]

2.75 volumes for Blue Moon.

Scott Zuhse, Instructor Micro Matic Dispense Institute

[iceman8420]

If anyone is interested.. I just got Blue Moon Honey Moon (summer ale).. fantastic refreshing beer. I called Coors and they recommended 12 psi @ 38 degrees.. so I've dialed in at 14 like most other domestics instead of the usual for 16 for blue moon white. If anyone disagrees post up

[bigduby]

I am bumping this thread to try and get some additional information. I just bought my kegerator and am having nothing but foam problems with these 2 beers ( See my sig ). Has anyone had any success with these beers? I am going to try separating out the pressures to see if they need to be different. Temp is 34 in a cup of water in the kegerator and about 12psi. I will be experimenting with separating out the pressures and adding beer line to slow the pour but if anyone has any other suggestions I would like to hear them. All equipment is new so there should not be an dirty issues.

Thanks,
Noob keg owner.

[Draught Prophet]

They are starting to keg Blue Moon in Toronto which is kegged at 2.75 at about 800'. Not sure where this is heading since the new brewery in VA, but I do know some of it is heading south.

[evenpardoc]

I just joined today as I was browsing the website. I am waiting on my keg of Blue Moon as we speak. The info is very useful so far. I have only had my kegorator for about a year and used Newcastle and Yuengling kegs. I keep the CO2 on 12 and so far no problems. I will post my experience with this new keg later this week. Seems Blue Moon is popular.

[Suliman]

Hey everyone... I'm having a bit of a foaming problem with my Blue Moon keg also. Per some of the earlier posts I just upped the pressure a bit, but if anyone has any recent experience please post...

[Durangstang]

I tapped a keg of Blue Moon the other day and came across this page while trying to solve my foaming issues. I've ended up with perfect pours every time after extending my beer line. I'm running 10 1/2 feet of 3/16" tubing at 14 psi with 36 degree liquid temperature. I cut the 5' that came attached to my tower in half in case anyone is wondering why the 1/2 foot. Also I extended the line with a barbed coupling so I know there is some kind of restriction going on there and the line may need to be a little longer if running 1 complete piece of tubing.

[Scott Zuhse]

The only thing you accomplished was to slow the flow of the beer down so that you can manage the foam easier. This beer is a 2.7 v/v and requires 16 PSIG @ 38F @ sea level.

Concentrate on these specs and you could easily dispense at five feet of 3/16".

[Frank.M]

Ok tap my blue moon keg friday and i having hell with the foam. built a fan and have it facing the tower. with the fan going i had to turn the cooler down it froze my lines up but if i turn the fan off the cooler only gets about 40 and with the fan on it gets the keg about 34 and the beer comes out about 37. the first mug is foam but if you pour 2 mugs it comes out good. just turned the co2 to 14psi and it seemed to help.

[imnlfn]

Ok tap my blue moon keg friday and i having hell with the foam. built a fan and have it facing the tower. with the fan going i had to turn the cooler down it froze my lines up but if i turn the fan off the cooler only gets about 40 and with the fan on it gets the keg about 34 and the beer comes out about 37. the first mug is foam but if you pour 2 mugs it comes out good. just turned the co2 to 14psi and it seemed to help.

Blue Moon is notoriously difficult to dispense well without a cooled tower, good general air circulation, and close attention to temperature and pressure settings. It's a highly carbonated beer, but it's tempting to set the pressure lower than recommended (16 psi at 38 degrees F at 1000 feet or less of altitude), though this is liable to allow the CO2 to come out of solution in the beer lines, which also causes foam (a burst of it when the bubble comes out of the faucet).

I had to increase my line length from five feet to eight feet in order to slow the flow down enough to get a decent pour of Blue Moon. If you're not willing to make the necessary changes, then I would avoid Blue Moon and any other similar wheat beers.

[bjakers]

Just bought a new Danby kegerator and blue moon is why i bought it just need some pointers on getting started thanks .

[hrosvit]

I have had a couple of sixtels of Blue Moon in my 4-tap system (including one right now). I have the temp set at 37 degrees and my tower is cooled (although not terribly well - another issue to work on), and have had to set my pressure at at least 16 (sometimes up to 18) to get the Blue Moon to play nice.

It really messes with the other beers. For anyone with a multi-tap setup who wants to pour Blue Moon, I would encourage a secondary regulator (although I have not yet been smart enough to take my own advice).

[bjakers]

i have had a couple of sixtels of blue moon in my 4-tap system (including one right now). I have the temp set at 37 degrees and my tower is cooled (although not terribly well - another issue to work on), and have had to set my pressure at at least 16 (sometimes up to 18) to get the blue moon to play nice.

It really messes with the other beers. For anyone with a multi-tap setup who wants to pour blue moon, i would encourage a secondary regulator (although i have not yet been smart enough to take my own advice).

thanks for the info. I wanted to try a small keg, but they tell me large kegs is all they sell blue moon in.

[KeggerGator]

thanks for the info. I wanted to try a small keg, but they tell me large kegs is all they sell blue moon in.

Not true- I just picked up a slim keg of Blue Moon from my local discount bev. store. Now if I could just get the temp own to 38F so I can tap that sucka!

[Chocodile]

How many feet would you guys recommend for Blue Moon? I have a Nostalgia Kegerator and I'm running either 5 or 6 ft (I can't remember which) and it's coming too fast. What would you guys recommend? 10 Feet?

[imnlfn]

How many feet would you guys recommend for Blue Moon? I have a Nostalgia Kegerator and I'm running either 5 or 6 ft (I can't remember which) and it's coming too fast. What would you guys recommend? 10 Feet?

I use eight foot lines and the pour rate is good with Blue Moon (I had a keg of it in there not too long ago). At ten feet, you might find your beers at lower pressures were coming out a tad bit slow.

You can always try longer and cut back six inches when you change out the kegs, until you get the flow rate you want.

[Chocodile]

I use eight foot lines and the pour rate is good with Blue Moon (I had a keg of it in there not too long ago). At ten feet, you might find your beers at lower pressures were coming out a tad bit slow.

You can always try longer and cut back six inches when you change out the kegs, until you get the flow rate you want.

Thanks. I'll try that.

[SeanDo]

All the help in this forum is great. I had the same foam issue but I followed the advice of setting the C02 to 16 psi. I was going to lengthen my hose to 8 feet+ at the next keg change as suggested because the blue moon had a pour that was much too fast and caused excessive foam, entire glass.
Instead, I took a pair of vise grips, padded them with a adhesive foam insulation that you would apply to a window and used them on the hose to gently restrict the flow. Result = perfect pour every time. It is very sensitive though. I reduced the clamp pressure minutely and it foamed my buddies glass. I adjusted again for mine and got perfect.

[varmit22]

I just had a 6th of blue moon. 36F 16 psi. had a nice head and was gone in a week. I had to keep uping the psi to get a head on the beer.

[Scott Zuhse]

All the help in this forum is great. I had the same foam issue but I followed the advice of setting the C02 to 16 psi. I was going to lengthen my hose to 8 feet+ at the next keg change as suggested because the blue moon had a pour that was much too fast and caused excessive foam, entire glass.
Instead, I took a pair of vise grips, padded them with a adhesive foam insulation that you would apply to a window and used them on the hose to gently restrict the flow. Result = perfect pour every time. It is very sensitive though. I reduced the clamp pressure minutely and it foamed my buddies glass. I adjusted again for mine and got perfect.

The application of the vice grip is very similar to a restrictor faucet. Just be careful not to restrict the flow too much as this can cause the gas in the beer to breakout.

Just a reminder, the use of long line or restrictor methods are not a substitute for balancing the gas in the beer. Get the beer temperature and PSIG balanced to the beer's CO2 volumes first, then worry about flow speed.

Strive for a perfect clear pour every time the faucet is opened.

[SeanDo]

The application of the vice grip is very similar to a restrictor faucet. Just be careful not to restrict the flow too much as this can cause the gas in the beer to breakout.

Just a reminder, the use of long line or restrictor methods are not a substitute for balancing the gas in the beer. Get the beer temperature and PSIG balanced to the beer's CO2 volumes first, then worry about flow speed.

Strive for a perfect clear pour every time the faucet is opened.

Scott, I believe you have hit the nail on the head. After a few days of Blue Moon perfection I am now looking at nothing but big foam. No brew, all foam and a flat taste.

If my gas has broken out am I looking at a dead keg?

My genius was short lived.

[SeanDo]

Scott, it appears your link in your signature is broken.

[Scott Zuhse]

If the beer tastes flat you have lowered the gas content of the beer. Although not very accurate, others have attempted to force carbonate with some success. Possibly you could apply the correct PSIG to the keg (16 PSIG @ 38F) and periodically (every hour??) remove the keg from your system and gently, slowly roll it to encourage the liquid to absorb the gas.

Season to taste!

Thanks for the heads up on the link.

[SeanDo]

Thanks Man! I will give it a try and post updates. Thanks for fixing the link. I am pumped to start the on-line courses.