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  1. 11-07-2009 07:24 PM #1
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    Talking Stout Questions !

    I have read a lot on this forum about stout dispensing.

    My local Brewery brew a beer named ''Sang D'encre'' (Ink's Blood in english)
    It's a Black Stout inspired by guiness/murphys,etc.

    I would like to buy a 1/6 of this one but i was wondering if i need a N2/C02 gas cylinder and a stout faucet.

    My questions are :

    1- At the pub, they serve it through a stout faucet. Does that necesarily means the beer is nitrogenated or is a question of beer line lenght and the pub have no choice to use gas mixes to avoid overcarbonation ???

    2- Do i just have to ask the brewmaster if its a co2 or n2 conditionned beer?

    3-Finally, if it's a co2 conditionned beer, will i be able to obtain this rich and creamy taste or i have to use a stout faucet with co2 ?

    Because im in no way interested in dispensing a stout without the mouthfull experience and creamy head ! This is what make it unique !

    Thank you very much for helping me again, english is not my primary language so sometimes i have a hard time understanding perfectly by just reading and not asking !

    Have a nice Day

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  2. 11-09-2009 05:23 PM #2
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  3. 11-09-2009 06:49 PM #3
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    Ask the brewer if the beer is nitrogenated. If not, you need find out what the carbonation of the beer is in volumes. Once known, conduct a search as to what settings are appropriate for CO2 pressure. With CO2, a stout faucet is normally not necessary.
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  4. 11-09-2009 07:27 PM #4
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    1. Nitro beers must be poured through a stout faucet to get the proper creamy head.

    CO2 beers can be poured through a stout faucet just fine if the restrictor disc is removed. They will pour just like an regular CO2 beer....but...a stout faucet isn't needed for CO2 beer. If nitro is used to push CO2 beer over long runs, then it is a different gas mix regardless.

    2. Yes, that is the best person to ask.

    3. See #1

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    Do i have to come to the conclusion that if the beer is serve from a stout faucet a the pub that it is automatically a nitro beer ?

    I will ask the brewer soon ...
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    Do i have to come to the conclusion that if the beer is serve from a stout faucet a the pub that it is automatically a nitro beer ?
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    If the beer has the cascading head, like a guinness does, than you can come to the conclusion that is a nitrogenated beer.
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  8. 11-12-2009 10:13 AM #8
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    Looking into the same thing and was wondering if anybody has any experience with one of these as a stout faucet:

    Austin Homebrew Supply


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    That perlick faucet is not a stout faucet. It is a creamer faucet which simply means that you can add head to your ale or lager by pushing the handle backwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gordy View Post
    Looking into the same thing and was wondering if anybody has any experience with one of these as a stout faucet:

    Austin Homebrew Supply
    Those Perlick are WONDERFUL....for CO2 beer. I have one (a 525) and I love it. A friend of mine is now putting a kegerator together, and between me and another friend that he has that brews beer (came in 2nd place in that Sam Adams contests I guess), we both convinced him to start right out the gate with a two tap system using Perlick 525's.

    More importantly, thanks for that link. I've been looking for the best price on another Perlick for quite awhile. I also have a Guinness Faucet (well, it should arrive here any day now) that I will probably never use. That faucet and type U coupler were going to be the start of my great Guinness experiment. But Guinness cost too much, and I can't fit a 1/2 in my fridge anywayz...
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    Talking about perlick faucet....

    I saw the 425 ..525 and 575 ....

    Which is the best ???
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  12. 11-14-2009 08:45 AM #12
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    I curreently have two of the 425ss' on my system and can't imagine them improving on the design but from what I have read, the 525's are just "better". I do like being able to remove the faucet spout on mine for cleaning purposes though. If anybody could do a side by side comparison of the two that would be great.


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  13. 11-14-2009 12:41 PM #13
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    The 525 seems to be the ''new'' 425 .
    And the 575 have the push back creamer action.
    I imagine going the 575 route you have the options to use it as a creamer if your beer need that option.

    Now i have to find a good place to buy Perlick Stuff from Canada ..Micromatic dont seems to have it for sell.

    Any input ?
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  14. 11-14-2009 12:57 PM #14
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