Extreme foamy beer maybe coupler problem??

[bman21]

I've had my kegarator for over a week now and since hook up I get almost a whole glass of foam. The temp is at 37-38 degrees. C02 is set a little under 10. I've tried 4psi and I've tried 12-14psi. No luck. The high psi the faster the foam comes out. Beer coming out of tap is full foam hardly and beer. Now my question is when assembling the coupler I have to c02 side done correct but the top where the beer line attaches is where I'm thinking my problem may be. The instructions were terrible when hooking it up but it said that I had to install a torpedo valve into the coupler then a rubber washer. When I put the torpedo in there was a big spring already installed no way of taking it out. Well I had to really force the torpedo valve into the coupler then I installed the washer and the beer line. After review other pages I've never seen anything about torpedo valves they only show the rubber washers nothing else. Is that torpedo necessary? Is the torpedo valve shaking the beer up when it's forced into the beer line? Plz help

[KillianBoy]

bman21,
I've read the instructions and you are right, not very clear. But it does say to remove spring, then insert the valve round side down (nothing about what to do with the spring, one assumes it goes between valve and washer).
It also assumes it is a Nostalgia and also the valve is the right one and not gas check valve. You really don't need the valve but does prevent the beer from flowing back through beer line, to coupler and keg (if not pressurized).
KB

[bman21]

So your saying to take it apart and remove the spring then put the torpedo valve in? When I had it apart it looks like that spring is not removable but I could be wrong. Also you said it will work with out the torpedo correct?

[bman21]

So I taking the beer line off to remove the torpedo valve. When doing so I notice there was one already in below the spring. So I removed the one I put back in and hooked everything back up. Waiting for keg to settle since I had te tapped and moved it around. I also turned the psi up to 12 to start.

[KillianBoy]

bman21,
Sorry your start of day is the end of mine, just got some coffee in me, so yes it can operate without the valve, the only thing is that when you take the beer line off coupler, it will be messy.
Not sure if you are saying there were 2 valves or 2 springs, but the valve should be round side down, the spring on top (assuming again).
Again if this is a Nostalgia kegerator with a Nostalgia coupler, other couplers have different ways to run the back flow valve, I've seem some non- "D" have a strange system.
If it is a Nostalgia coupler, there a torpedo looking valve AND a duckbill valve, the duckbill goes to the gas side (side), the torpedo the beer side (top).
KB
OP, can you check out the "Rookie Problems" thread in the troubleshooting section? not sure if the video will play, but if the foam was like that then it is wrong parts in the wrong place.

[bman21]

That must be what kind it is. I just know the kegarator is an igloo brand. I'm very new to all this. What happened was there were 2 torpedo valves in there. I took one out. Now it's torpedo then spring. I also changed the gasket on the bottom of the coupler. Still having extremely foamy pours. I don't know if this means anything but the tap handle is spring loaded so it kicks back on its own. Also right after. Pour I look at the beer line and there are tiny bubbles flowing down from the tap Handle and tiny bubbles flowing up from the coupler. Also I had someone tell me that they never seem this... Where coming up from the coupler there is a bend metal line which then connects to the beer line. They say it's usually straight??

[KillianBoy]

bman21,
I think we really need to start from the beginning to get things straight and clear:
Answer please:
Make and model (if you can, if not post pictures of the inside)
New or used
Modifications made, parts replaced, parts cleaned, with what
Where did you purchase parts
"changed the gasket on the bottom of the coupler" explain which part (2 washers and/or gaskets)
Are they 2 EXACTLY the same torpedo valves (pictures would help)
And describe the flow of beer from faucet, (white, beer colored)
Pictures would really help me help you, make sure pictures are small to use MM system, links will not work, you also need to read up on balance and foam, check out my newbie thread.
The bubbles coming up from coupler could be as simple as imbalance (PSI too low) or could be a gas/beer mixing at coupler due to improper parts. Foam could be imbalance or it could be an extra washer in faucet or etc...
Explain your system as best you can, but you need to answer those questions before I can make any kind of assessment of what is causing your problems.
Also explain "tiny bubbles flowing down from the tap Handle", is this from faucet (where beer comes out from) or the handle on coupler, how can you see these bubbles.
KB

[bman21]

Kegarator is a Igloo 6.0 cubic fr kegarator model # FRB200
Brand new first keg in it. Keg is 1/2 Busch Light.
Everything is brand new all parts came with it. Nothing changed. But like I said in the begining the instructions aren't very clear. Most all washers came pre installed. It came with a lot of extra washers. I seen somewhere where changing the big rubber washer on the bottom of the coupler may help so I did that. Yes the torpedos were exactly the same. The one was already installed and I was unaware of that at first. I have around 8 psi on it right now because when I turn it up it really flys out pretty whicked. Pouring into a 16oz glass I may get a 1/2 in to an inch of beer then the rest all foam. It will take like 4 mins for the foam to go down before I can put more in the glass. The tiny bubbles I see after a pour are in the beer line. Some start to fall down the line from the faucet and others come out of the 90 degree bend that comes right off the top of the coupler. They all float till the meet in the middle of the beer line and they sit there until they form into larger bubbles after time. Like I said the faucet came pre installed all I had to do was screw the handle on. And put the beer line down into the fridge. The faucet is a spring loaded one where it automatically pulls back after you let it go. Temp is around 38 degrees I will work on some pictures.

[bman21]

Flow from faucet is white almost the whole time but right before the glass is full of foam it turns slightly and I mean slightly beer color

[bman21]

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[KillianBoy]

bman21,
Gear looks like a Nostalgia, they like using the 90 degree turn since the clearance on top is small.
So I have no idea why bubbles would be going down from faucet, might be something is loose in faucet or faucet to shank connection but if so you might be leaking beer, just make sure connection and the one under handle is tight, I have never heard of bubbles coming down, going up it is either something irritating beer or CO2 and beer are mixing (or PSI too low, read my thread). If you have 2 of those torpedo valves, then they messed up, honestly remove everything and keep a large towel handy when taking coupler off.
OK, which big rubber washer did you change out and did you use a replacement from unit or did you buy something from DIY store?
Are there 2 washers on bottom of coupler?
The coupler looks a little beat up, you sure it is brand new?, same goes with beer line.
You might be better off buying a new coupler, 7+ feet of new beer line and other things you might need.
Search forum under term "Nostalgia", you can learn how to change out the beer line and connect or modify the CO2 line.
If the outside bottom seal was replaced, it shouldn't cause any problems (only you might lose CO2 fast, if you still have gas then it is fine), the inside (probe washer) is crucial, if not fitted properly or missing will cause massive foam.
KB

[bman21]

Yes everything is brand new it must just be the picture making it look different. As for leaking beer I opened up the tower and all is good no leaks. I replaced the big outer washer with extra replacement parts that came with the kegarator. And still have gas so that must not of been the problem. As for the "inside probe washer" it looks to mean like it is like in there good I didn't know it it was even remove able when I first looked at it. It it supposed to be a loose washer? My thoughts are the beer is getting mixed up coming from there. Any other suggestions??

[KillianBoy]

bman21,
"And still have gas so that must not of been the problem. As for the "inside probe washer"(sic). it looks to mean like it is like in there good I didn't know it it was even remove able when I first looked at it. It it supposed to be a loose washer? "
I will ask you this if you can understand the above, what YOU have posted, then y'know we really don't speak the same language.
Just to be polite, there are 2 (two), dos, ni, zwei, WHATEVER number you are using on the bottom of the coupler, 1 (one), ichi, uno, izei (sorry about spelling) on the the probe, the second washer/"O" ring on the coupler body, the second, 2 (two), dos, ni, zwei, honestly these are the only languages I speak.
If you can't post a picture of the BOTTOM of the coupler, then I will (THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE PROBE WASHER) , IF you can't understand what I am asking then I really can't help you.
Again, there are 2 washers/"O" rings at bottom of the coupler, if you DON"T have 2, you will have foam problems or empty CO2 gas in couple of days.
I will tell you this, if your camera takes a picture of a cloudy beer line and a coupler that is really dirty, then either you need to get a new camera OR you bought a used unit, which means you need to replace the beer line AND clean EVERYTHING that the beer may have touched (which includes the faucet, shank, and coupler tailpiece). You have to understand that the coupler has 2 parts, probe and coupler body, both have 1 gasket/washer EACH.
I will tell you this TAKE EVERYTHING APART, make sure EVERYTHING, is clean, follow my thread and post back if you have problems.
KB

[bman21]

I'm sorry for not knowing the correct terminology for what everything is called I've takin some picture can you just tell me if all this looks correct please and I'll leave you alone

[bman21]

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