Were to start?

[paleale]

I am at the begging stages of opening a bar with 25 taps.
I am trying to get some numbers together for the business plan but am not sure where to start with the draft system.
I know we will be using a Glycol Cooled System.
Does anyone have an average cost for 25 tap, Glycol Cooled System or do I need to just price out each item?
Any help as to were to start with this would be great.
Thanks for your time.

[Beer Dr]

If your going to be putting in a 25 faucet system you should have a professional with experience do it for you. It's not something an amatuer should attempt. Your draft beer can be very profitable if it is properly installed, and a nightmare if is not. Where is the bar going to be located? We are installers in NE PA.

[draught guy]

Wyhat state are you in? My company installs draft systems are largest tap number was 100 with a local chain if you contact micro matic thy might refer you to a reliable installer in your area and talk to the local beer distribut orshave some leads and possible help in subsudising your out of pocket expense. good luck I dont type worth a darn

[Scott Zuhse]

You guys are awesome! Hope Paleale sees the value in professional help and quality components to not just dispense clear beer but have a dispense system that offers a quality product to the customers so they keep coming back for more.

Scott Zuhse, Instructor Micro Matic Dispense Institute

[paleale]

Thanks for yor help so far!!
We are in Maryland, USA. I have been working the brewing industry, 2 of the places I have worked have been Brew Pubs so I have a little working knowledge. I hope to take the draught class.
I would like to get a ball park idea of what a draft set-up would cost, parts & labor.
Also we want to have the kegs in a BIG walk-in cooler. Any leads on that would be great.
Recomendations on a Glycol system?
Thanks again,
paleale

[Beer Dr]

If you have enough working knowledge to install the system then you should be able to figure out what is needed to do the job.

[paleale]

Beer Dr I did not say I know how to do the work or know what is all involved. I think I can manage to keep it in working order once it is in.

[TAPMAN]

Paleale, where in Maryland are you located? I'm in York, PA., not to far from anywhere in Md.I could help with any questions or do the install itself. Costs would be dependant upon distance from keg to faucet,choice of dispenser,etc. Tapman

[edramshaw]

If I may interject I believe Paleale is looking for a rough figure (the closer the better) to include in his business plan. The number he is looking for would probably include parts and installation expenses for a 25 tap glycol chilled system. I too have struggled through many business plans so I can relate to the difficulty encountered when working through the financials. It really helps to have an accurate picture of what everything is going to cost to determine the capital needed. I may be wrong but that was my take on his post.

Ed

[Scott Zuhse]

How many tower locations will be required or will the 25 faucets all be in one location. If in one location, are all 25 on the same tower or on lets say five - five faucet towers. Will you require custom towers of can you use stock towers. Brass look or stainless? Drip trays?

Approximately how far is the walk-in cooler from the towers. Do you have a chase system for the python or does it have to be routed in the ceiling through the rafters. Based on length of python between the cooler and tower(s) that require maintaining, this will determine size of glycol power pack.

Based on length, will you require empty keg sensors (FOBs)?

If you desire to keep your pour cost low as well as assure quality thus resale, specify a gas blender to dispense you product.

To keep labor costs low, use regulator panels in the keg cooler. Use an installation kit to provide all the miscellaneous parts. Don't forget the keg couplers.

As to install fee, normally an eight faucet 100' system with FOBs and gas blender will on average run close to $1800.00 if new construction. For 24 Faucets - closer to $3000.

Check out the links and do the math.

Scott Zuhse, Instructor Micro Matic Dispense Institute

[DCullender]

Hey, hope you understand no one here is trying to give you a hard time over this question. It is very difficult, if not impossible, to give cost estimates with the information provided so far.

Follow Scott's lead and do the numbers, then add 15 to 20%. Now you will be in the ballpark.

Good Luck.